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GFC ten years on - take homes from the Ball, Swan & Taylor Melbourne event

22 August Melbourne Town Hall:  There were 250-300 ALP sorts doing some hard listening at The GFC 10 Years On event presented by the Australia Institute and Guardian Australia.  It was a good talk, despite gravel flu voices from both the Lenore Taylor and Wayne Swan, who soldiered on regardless. The conversation (with questions from The Guardian's Lenore Taylor) went something like this:

It’s definitely OK to talk about tax and a bigger state

2 Aug: It was a dark and stormy Melbourne wintry night, but over 100 ALP stalwarts attended a Fabians led rigorous tax event. Quite a few came along with their own proposals in hand.

MPs Terri Butler and Andrew Giles discussed tax reform with Alison McClelland (former Productivity Commissioner). Some take home stories were:

  • Tax is about how we see ourselves in relationship to others (present and future generations). 
  • Tax must be central to our core vision.
  • Inequality is getting worse. 
  • We think progressive taxes are good. We must be bolder at telling this story.
  • Inequality is in particular worsening in Anglophone countries, due to our tax policies. Inequality is bad for wealth for all.
  • A lá Thomas Picketty - power reproduces; rising asset prices result in an increasing accumulation of wealth and falling share going to wages and increases inequality; the relationship between social, political and financial inequality is tight.
  • Our moral position is key. Exactly what tax mechanisms will bring about a fairer Australia is a technical question. It must include the unions.
  • The ALP is doing good policy work on negative gearing, deductions cap for income management, trusts crackdown.
  • Avoid the language of the right. Stop talking about tax payers’ money. Talk about public money.
  • Avoid Rule-In-Rule-Out rules.  We need discussion and debate, not confected outrage.

Thanks to the Fabians, as always, carving out space for social democratic discussion and policy development.

Terri Butler is the QLD Federal Member for Griffith; and Shadow Assistant Minister for Family Violence and Child Safety; Universities; and Equality.

Andrew Giles is the VIC Federal Member for Scullin (north outer metro region); and Shadow Assistant Minister for Schools.

Download Terri and Andrew’s essay.

Report from NSW Open Labor July event

The Open Labor NSW event held at the Toxteth Hotel in Glebe on Wednesday 27 July provided participants with both information and conversation. It's the way we hope to conduct ourselves, always.

Thirty one Party members and supporters assembled to hear Tom Bentley review Labor's progress since the 2013 election debacle, and the issues and challenges for the current Parliament. Tom was deputy chief of staff to Prime Minister Julia Gillard, and from 1998 to 2006 he was director of DEMOS - described by The Economist as ‘Britain's most influential think tank'.

Tom commenced by noting that the 2014 Budget was a galvanising moment for both the Party and unions. There was a coherent response from both. From the Party the response was policy rich, emphasising the visceral community response to the Budget consequently resonating with the electorate.

A lesson learnt from minority government was the need for a disciplined, collaborative approach.

Early introduction of policy pitched to long term priorities, avoiding the small target strategy, worked to make Labor competitive. Stagnation in wages, the electorate’s commitment to policies such as Gonski and NDIS, an ageing population, recognition of rising inequality, concerns about unsustainable climate policies fitted Labor’s strategies.

These and other issues have been bubbling to the surface calling for renewal of progressive politics and commitment to ethical and ideological principles. The campaign was disciplined, mobilised members and unions and combined grass roots and social media.

Following questions to Tom, those attending were invited to converse on issues of interest with a focus on pre-selections and the role of unions in the Party. There was a constant hubbub of conversation and, even after the event was would up discussion continued for some time. Discussion was carried on around the four tables with about 8 participants to each table. Their thoughts were expressed by the groups on butcher's paper.

Group 1 began their discussion by looking at underlying threats and opportunities to be found in issues such as climate change, globalisation and geopolitical tensions. Associated with these were human rights issues expressed in income inequality. By taking up these issues we would be challenging neo-liberal ideology.

The group saw potential policy responses in re-establishing the concept of, and pursuing, a social wage. This could be done through protecting and improving Medicare, education and welfare services, and engaging with particular and pressing issues such as combating domestic violence.

They discussed responses to be made through industry policy. Opportunities were to be found in the field of alternative energy, in start-ups and in supporting and encouraging small business. They saw other possible responses in industrial law and taxation.

They concluded by considering party reform. This would involve restructuring various party forums, broadening branch life, establishing and strengthening networks and ensuring that the Party in its publicly espoused policies and in its internal processes was committed to a genuine form of democracy.

Group 2 focussed on three issues requiring action: the lack of young people in the Party; the influence of the unions in the Party; and lacklustre leadership.

Younger people are not interested. They have no big block of influence in the Party. We need to recruit young people, renewing the Party branch by branch. We should recruit youth by visiting schools and youth clubs, and engaging in and promoting community activities.

The Party should preserve union affiliation. Unions are well organised bodies and the Party needs their support. But there is the question of their influence. They have 50% of the say but represent afar smaller percentage of the workforce.

The leadership needs to improve its relationship with members. They should ensure that democratic principle and practices inform all Party activities, so that, for example, Senate candidates would be elected by members.

Group 3 engaged in a blunt assessment of the Party. The Party’s language is a turn-off. The leaders of factions and other power brokers look like a bunch of bullies. The Party has lost its local roots. At times there seems to be zero differentiation between Labor and the Liberals. Only 17% of the workforce is unionised, yet the unions have what amounts to a controlling influence in the affairs of the Party.

The group asked: “How do you build a relationship with the politically moderate?” and proposed engaging people through social media or webinar forums. This way the Party could reach single parents, young people, shift workers and people living in remote communities. The Party needs to confront and take on board issues that are of importance to the general population. These issues include the environment, the protection of the Great Barrier Reef, and putting a price on carbon. Social justice should be pursued by providing universal health-care, well-funded public education, child-care, parental leave for both parents, and the funding of the arts.

NSW Open Labor reviews the election campaign

NSW Open Labor member Roger Tonkin reviews the election campaign

 

Labor’s 100 Positive Policies

Labor's willingness to take risks and to focus on positive policies has been a refreshing change from the small target strategy and bitterly adversarial election campaigns that we usually get from Labor and the Coalition. That approach together with the increasing sense of disappointment in the electorate with Malcolm Turnbull goes a long way to explain why Labor's stocks and Bill Shorten’s stocks have improved dramatically over the past six months.

 

Economic Management

In this campaign Chris Bowen has emerged as one of the most economically literate Shadow Treasurers Labor has produced. He out-campaigned Scott Morrison on economic management. Chris Bowen was upfront with the electorate and analytical when he needed to be. By way of contrast, to deflect difficult questions, Scott Morrison frequently resorted to bluster, obfuscation and bullying in his trademark machine-gun style. If and when Chris Bowen gets the chance, he will be a superb Treasurer. Like Keating he has the capacity to think outside the square, to develop and extend Labor policy, and to explain Labor policy in ways that lower and middle income earners can understand and accept. In this campaign, like Keating, he demonstrated that he will be an excellent economic manager, an innovator, and an educator.

 

Medicare/’Mediscare’

I support the emphasis in the campaign on saving Medicare. However, Labor could well come to regret the strategy of the last two-three weeks of claiming that the Coalition will privatise Medicare, for two reasons.

First, it drowned out any discussion of other aspects of its 100 positive policies. And second, the ‘mediscare’ claim by Labor that the Coalition will privatise Medicare, without any proof to substantiate that claim, was a disgraceful example of over-reach and distortion. To persist with that claim after Turnbull emphatically stated that the Coalition would not privatise Medicare, and without being able to provide any evidence to substantiate that claim, left Labor open to the accusation that it was lying. Privatising Medicare means selling it lock, stock and barrel to the private sector. It does not mean forcing private individuals to pay more for medical services, and it does not mean forcing individuals to take out Private Health Insurance. The electorate is fed up with lies. It is fed up with politicians and political parties that lie, misrepresent and distort. After the 2010 election Abbott was able to damage Julia Gillard irreparably with the claim that she had lied when she stated there would be no carbon tax under a government she led (even though she had not lied).

After the 2013 election Labor was able to damage Abbott irreparably with the evidence that he had lied when he stated that there would be no cuts to health, no cuts to education and no cuts to the ABC. What Labor has done is ensure that every day from now until the next election the Coalition will attempt to discredit Labor with its ‘mediscare lie’. With this ’lie’ Labor undid the gains it had made in building trust with the electorate. The constant reference by the Coalition to the record high bulk-billing rate of 85% as evidence that its health policies would not damage Medicare was never answered adequately by Labor, when it could have been answered and should have been answered. The reference to the record high bulk-billing rate was always an attempt to deflect Labor from its criticism of the Coalition’s attempts to white-ant Medicare. Labor can justifiably claim that the Coalition has form in trying to destroy Medicare, and that even though the bulk-billing rate is at a record high, the Coalition’s policies will seriously undermine Medicare by forcing patients to pay, or to pay more, for medical services, or even lose services. That is all Labor needed to do. The ’lie’ was not necessary. In defending Medicare, Hawke went as far as it was possible to go: “you don’t set up a task force to investigate privatising Medicare unless you intend to do so”. Hawke adroitly exploited the evidence of an intention to privatise Medicare, but he stopped short of stating that the Coalition will privatise Medicare. Hawke did not lie. Labor did.

 

Housing affordability

I support Labor’s policy to restrict negative gearing to new housing stock, and to increase the tax rate on Capital Gains. Labor argued initially that this would help make housing more affordable for first home buyers by making houses cheaper. For housing to be affordable, house prices need to fall. However, the evidence from its own modelling indicated that the reduction in house prices would be small. Labor also found itself having to defend its negative gearing policy from a dishonest Coalition scare campaign that the housing market would collapse and that the value of houses for low and medium income mum-and- dad investors and home owners would plummet. Labor never managed to reconcile its policy objective of making houses more affordable with the evidence that the fall in house prices would be small. The best it was able to say was that the rate of increase in house prices would be slower.

 

Labor’s Small Business Policy

Two weeks before the election Labor announced its small business policy in which it proposed a small business employment subsidy. In the furore over Medicare that drowned out any focus on Labor’s 100 positive policies, the media did not give this policy the exposure and the analysis that it warranted, and Labor made no attempt to explain or to promote the policy. Labor consciously brought this situation on itself with its ‘Mediscare lie’. That was unfortunate. Even though Labor’s Small Business policy has all the earmarks of an after-thought and as an attempt to dent the impact of the Coalition's Jobs and Growth mantra, the policy has legs. It is well targeted at under-25s, at over 55s seeking to find a job, and at parents attempting to return to the labour market. It involves costs in terms of increased expenditure, but it is claimed to boost employment to the extent of 30,000 full-time jobs each year. In economic terms the policy has multiplier effects which claw back some of the costs as well as the obvious savings to social welfare expenditure (particularly expenditure on Newstart). Together with its Education policy, Labor’s Small Business policy could be argued, with some credibility, to be part of Labor's plan to boost jobs and growth. Labor failed to argue that case.

 

Budget Repair

Very early in the campaign, and even before the election was called, Chris Bowen stated publicly that it was Labor’s aim to protect Australia’s triple-A credit rating. Having set that as a Labor policy objective, Labor had to ensure that the credit-A rating was not put at risk with its budget and debt strategy in both the short to medium run, and in the long run. Its 10 year policy projections did so, but its 4 year projections of bigger budget deficits than the Coalition’s did not. That outcome could have been avoided, but if Labor did not want to make the necessary changes to its policies, the economic argument for those large deficits needed to be defended vigorously on sound economic grounds. They were not, or they were not defended vigorously enough. Very few politicians or political commentators in the media fully understand the difference between projections and forecasts, the role of assumptions and scenario analysis in policy simulations, and the legitimate role of these techniques in comparing the impact of competing macro-economic policies over both the short to medium run and the long run. Labor needed to explain how crucial these techniques are in evaluating and comparing the Coalition’s and Labor’s economic policies and how Labor’s policies achieve budget repair in an acceptable time frame. It did not.

The Coalition relied on its schedule of tax cuts to business over 4 and 10 years to stimulate growth and to achieve budget repair, a strategy referred to during the campaign by Labor and by some commentators as “trickle-down” economics. The major weakness of this strategy for the Australian economy is that a significant proportion of the tax cuts, of the order of 30%, is lost to large foreign corporations. That is, there is a significant leakage of the stimulus out of the domestic economy, but an alternative ‘trickle-up’ set of policies exists which do not give rise to leakages from the domestic economy anywhere as large as 30%. That alternative involves a direct stimulus to demand in the domestic economy, e.g. via income tax cuts to low and middle income earners or infrastructure investment. This alternative is more commonly familiar to economists as a Keynesian demand stimulus. In a period of low inflation as exists now in the domestic economy, that alternative is a valid feasible policy option. Labor’s infrastructure and education policies would provide a stimulus to domestic demand and economic growth, but by themselves they fall short of what is required to avoid increasing deficits between now and the next Federal election due in 2019. Labor could have and should have argued the case against the Coalition’s ’trickle-down’ tax cuts to business in favour of a more ambitious ‘trickle-up’ stimulus over the short to medium run. It did not. In the current low-inflation circumstances, if it had done so, it would have been able to avoid larger deficits than the Coalition’s over the first 4 years of the forward estimates, and quarantined itself against any scare campaign from the Coalition and conservative commentators in the financial media that its economic policies would put Australia’s triple-A credit rating at risk.

 

Debt

The Coalition constantly raises the spectre of an increasing interest burden on future generations arising from government or public sector debt. The Australian public can be forgiven for believing that the Coalition would only ever be happy if public sector debt is zero. There are several things that need to be understood about public sector debt. First, it is true that a large part of the interest burden falls on future generations. Second, that Australian’s public sector debt is low when compared with other G2 economies. Third, that some level of public sector debt is necessary for monetary policy to be a viable option. These things are well understood by the financial sector, if not by the general public. What is not so well understood, except by economists, is that public sector debt has a legitimate role in stimulating economic growth. Debt financing of current expenditure (e.g. social welfare payments) is acceptable only in very rare circumstances (e.g. during the GFC).

However, debt financing of capital expenditure is a valid economic option where future generations benefit from that expenditure (e.g. expenditure on infrastructure). Labor needed to explain the legitimate role of debt financing of capital expenditure, and it needed to ensure that we move as quickly as possible to a situation where debt is not used to fund current expenditure.

As far as I am aware, the distinction between capital and current expenditure was not even mentioned during the campaign, or in any recent campaign where public sector debt has been an issue. If Labor is ever to rid itself of the perception that the Coalition is always likely to be a better economic manager, there is a clear need for it to educate the public about the legitimate role of debt financing of capital expenditure, and it needs to ensure that in future it uses debt only to fund capital expenditure.

 

Union Thuggery and Lawlessness

The Coalition was able to link the Labor Party with examples of Union thuggery and lawlessness.  

In promoting their policy of restoring the ABCC, one of the triggers for the Double Dissolution, they referred constantly to 100 unionists facing over 1000 criminal charges, and they successfully characterised Labor’s opposition to the restoration of the ABCC as condoning Union lawlessness. Labor needs to demonstrate that it is serious in opposing and stamping out thuggery and lawlessness in the Unions. It is not enough to merely state that Labor has zero tolerance for unacceptable Union behaviour.

 

Roger Tonkin

NSW Open Labor member

5/07/2016

Time for a new consensus

Tom Bentley (one of Open Labor's founders) and Jonathan West have released Time for a new consensus: fostering Australia’s comparative advantages, a paper which offers an in-depth and insightful analysis of the Australian political and economic landscape.  

They investigate the growing sense of stagnation in Australia’s approach to public policy and economic reform, and argue that the current sense of political inertia comes from the fact that the whole discussion is taking place within the parameters of a political consensus that was forged in the 1980s, and which has now passed its use-by date.  

You can read it here as a PDF, or download it for ePub or Kindle.

NSW Open Labor on the election

Now is the time

This is a critical moment in Australia’s political history. A historical federal election is looming. The electorate is cynical of politicians. The current government is hustling us towards the inequalities and dislocations of a US style of society under the pretence of ‘small government’ and a ‘free market economy’. We need your help to expose this subterfuge and to ensure we move towards a fairer more equitable Australia.

Our key vulnerability

The ALP was established to improve the lot of the vast majority of Australians, so to demonstrate this, we have to have a genuinely engaged and enthusiastic membership – not a disenfranchised and dispirited one. This is Open Labor’s agenda. Open Labor is a strong presence in Victoria and a developing presence in NSW.

At present all the membership gets are constant exhortations from the top down, to promote policy positions they have not been involved in developing.

Seize the moment

There is hope. The long election period gives us an excellent opportunity to highlight the need for internal party reform. To overcome electorate cynicism and to differentiate us from other Parties, the Australian Labor Party needs to show its true colours through what it promises and how it behaves i.e. both policy and party reform.

During this crucial period, when the electorate is more engaged by politics, and taking more notice of us, the Party leadership should commit to introducing all the reforms proposed by the Bracks/Carr/Faulkner Review via a wide ranging consultation with members and supporters. Such a commitment would demonstrate how we will behave as a Party in the future. If we are to be trusted we have to show we will be an open, honest and transparent Party - and that’s how we should promise to be in government.

Such an approach would be consistent with a party culture based on:

Values: committed to fairness
Policies: delivering fairness
Financial management: enabling fairness Party governance: ensuring fairness

Make a difference

Open Labor NSW conducted a well-attended and stimulating Fringe Event at the February 2016 NSW State Conference. This involved a conversation with Rebecca Huntley, a well-known social researcher and David Hetherington of Per Capita, a progressive think-tank followed by a Q&A.

We videoed the event and now have released it through YouTube. We have edited it into a full version which runs just over one hour with lots of questions and a shorter version which is Rebecca’s initial presentation, a bit short of 15 minutes.

The focus of the conversation was whether Party reform mattered to the electorate. Rebecca explained the distinction between polling which asks questions of interest to the pollsters vs more in-depth, open discussion. She made the point that Party reform is never likely to be high on the electorate’s priorities. But, a Party which seems to allow corrupt, bullying tactics, and which pre-selects poor candidates has an additional hurdle to overcome when the elector considers the Party’s capacity to deliver on the issues which have higher priority.

Rebecca also stressed that support for Rudd and the Party fell dramatically after he dropped the Emissions Trading Scheme. The ETS was not high on the list of electorate priorities but by walking away Rudd lost what had made him electable: that he believed in something. It was that he appeared to walk away from his beliefs that lost him support. Malcolm Turnbull’s honeymoon seems to have ended on the same basis.

Take action

Please watch the videos and pass the link to others who may be interested. Also keep an eye on the Open Labor website (openlabor.net.au) for developments, in NSW.

The full conversation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5AnEq-nxJY

Rebecca’s initial address: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6gwDHYAbH8

Some observations about Trump, Sanders and the radical moment

In case you missed our last meeting, here are the opening remarks from the chair, Martin Kamener:

 

At Open Labor we are seeking the renewal of the Australian Labor Party and a more open, optimistic and decent politics in Australia.

We want an open Labor Party: open to change, and open to new ideas.

For all that it has achieved over the years, the ALP has in recent years struggled to find the ideas and ideals needed to inspire Australians. Inertia and entrenched self-interest are powerful forces inside the party, as are disengagement and cynicism outside of it, but at Open Labor we believe that in the widespread despair with our politics there lays an opportunity.

Which brings me to tonight’s meeting, its central question, a truly Open Labor type of question, “what does the radical moment, represented by the rise of Trump, Sanders and Corbyn mean for the ALP?

In trying to make sense of this radical moment, I am reminded of Alice trying to decipher her new world after having gone through the looking glass.

Definitions that once seemed certain are suddenly no longer so.

Assumptions which underpinned our political sub-conscious cannot now be assumed, some things that were deemed Left, might now perhaps be Right and vice versa.

And suddenly we find ourselves asking do Left and Right have any meaning in the 21st Century?

In fact much of the political discussion in this radical moment is like having a discussion at the Tea Party with The Mad Hatter, the March Hare and the Cheshire Cat? 

Different as Trump, Sanders and Corbyn might be, they are all a result of this radical moment that is shaking the political systems of many countries, disrupting normal political business and challenging mainstream parties to justify their existence into the 21st Century. The ascendancy of each of these politicians is a reflection of community concerns at the rapid pace of social, economic and cultural changes that is challenging our daily lives.

And in this rapidly changing political world, people are clearly asking new questions, questions which the traditional mainstream politics of Left versus Right is struggling to resolve itself, let alone reassure anxious voters that they may have an answer.

So how does a "mainstream" political party like the ALP find the right response to this radical moment?

Rebecca Huntley on Australians' attitudes to politicians and politics

Rebecca Huntley is one of Australia's most respected social researches, and a good friend of Open Labor.  Here is the footage from NSW Open Labor's state conference fringe event, where she and David Hetherington from Per Capita discuss the suspicion, indifference, nostalgia and optimism that Australians have felt about our leaders in the last fifteen years.

Rebecca's opening remarks:

Watch the full conversation here:

NSW state conference fringe event

Report on NSW Open Labor state conference fringe activities

The combination of our banner and T-shirts, prominently displaying the Open Labor logo, meant that we were certainly noticed as we distributed flyers advertising our fringe event to delegates as they arrived at the Town Hall.  We had decided to conduct our event at a pub about a block away from the Town Hall with the venue hire off-set against bar takings exceeding $250 which we managed to achieve.

There were four other events at the same time as ours (5-7 pm) including one on Labor and Innovation and the one for the Chifley Institute; furthermore the conference itself was not scheduled to finish until 6.30, so we were a little anxious as to whether we would draw a reasonable crowd.  In the event around 70 attended so we have a fair number with which to start our local mailing list.

Our speaker was the Social Researcher, Rebecca Huntley, on the topic “Why should Labor Party reform matter to voters”.  After a brief address on the topic she was then engaged in conversation by David Hetherington, Executive Director of the Per Capita think tank before a number of questions from the floor.  We engaged a cameraman to film the whole event and will be able to provide a record of proceedings.

The following notes by one of those present capture just a little of the content that was covered:

  • Rebecca’s research indicates that public interest in politics and standing for office is very low.
  • The Party treatment of the Bracks et al review after the last election reflects the more general negative view of the Party and its processes.  The nature and location of most Branch meetings present a fundamental barrier to women, migrants and younger voters becoming engaged.  In essence the Party presents as dominated by white, older males with boring meetings which are very un-family-friendly.
  • Research shows that people want leaders who are values-driven and consistent in what they stand for rather than ‘flip-flopping’, a la Rudd on the ETS and Abbot on multiple promises.
  • Public cynicism about politicians being poll-driven is exacerbated by the fact that those who do the interpreting of poll findings are drawn from such a narrow perspective of society and appear to be so short term in their focus.
  • Policies need to be integrated and coherently linked to a narrative which shows a broad strategic approach to what the Party stands for.

One question from the floor involved the observation that we spend too much time navel-gazing about democratic pre-election processes when the real need is for coherent and attractive policies.  Rebecca’s response to the ‘question’ went to the need for appropriate selection processes to ensure we obtain the most competent people in policy-making.  The public perception is that Labor perpetuates the selection of people based on factional support rather than policy competence.

Open Labor NSW will continue to promote rigorous conversations on important topics such as these.

Stability pact makes a mockery of Party democracy in Wills

Eric Dearricott, leader of the Independent faction and member of the Admin Committee, offers this analysis of the results of the Wills preselection:

Wills Pre-Selection
We can be pleased that there was a local member plebiscite as part of the process to select the candidate to replace Kelvin Thompson in Wills and that, at least in the local vote, the principle of the secret ballot was observed.
 
Beyond that, the stability pact reduced this pre-selection, as it has with almost all other recent pre-selections, to a mere shadow of the democratic process Victorian pre-selections once were.
 
Under the stability pact agreement Wills was allocated to the Right. Whoever the Right anointed as their preferred candidate all Public Office Selection Committee (POSC) members tied to the Shortcons or to the Left would be bound to vote for that candidate. Consequently 5 candidates connected to the Right (Peter Khalil, Mehmet Tillem, Anna-Maria Arabia, Lambros Tapinos and Meghan Hopper) nominated along with one non-aligned (Josh Funder). No one from the Left nominated because Wills had been given to the Right.
 
The outcome of the local vote on primaries was: Khalil 224, Tillem 151, Arabia 142, Funder 94, Tapinos 51 and Hopper 32. Around 190 votes of Peter Khalil’s 224 votes were delivered in a block to him by virtue of a deal brokered with local sub-factional chieftains.
 
On Wednesday afternoon Shortcon POSC members met and decided that Khalil would be their anointed candidate. All other candidates of the Right were required to withdraw which they obligingly did.
 
This meant only Peter Khalil and non-aligned Josh Funder went before the POSC.
 
In an embarrassment for the Right the distribution of the preferences of the candidates who had withdrawn placed Funder on 332 votes ahead of Khalil 315 in the local count. No matter: at the POSC (which has under the rules has equal weighting with the local vote)  all but the 3 Independent members were bound by the Stability Pact. The vote of its 100 members: 92 Khalil, 3 Funder with 4 informal converted the outcome into the clear pre-selection of Peter Khalil.
 - Eric Dearricott